Question: What is the best German car ever made?

"Bandit" (2bandit) 11/04/2013 at 10:58 • Filed to: educationlopnik

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I have to do a report on a German car that I would buy for my German class. The car can be from any point in time. I would prefer to keep to cars post 19th century.

Ilike_cougars > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 10:59

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Depends, best in what?

Anon > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:01

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E30 m3?

Slave2anMG > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:01

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W124 Mercedes Benz. Unbreakable engines, vault-like body construction, rugged and durable.

ncasolowork2 > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:01

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Audi R-18 E-Tron Quattro

Nibby > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:02

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Anon > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:03

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Or if we're just talking pure balls to the wall performance SLS AMG Black Edition

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:03

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Most successful would be the VW bug, best though would probably be the 300SL IMHO.

Bandit > Ilike_cougars 11/04/2013 at 11:03

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In anything. I'm totally open. Best in speed, unreliability, looks, ugliness, etc

Victorious Secret > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:03

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Leopard 2

twinturbobmw > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:05

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The first car ever made was German.

area man > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:08

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Someone call His Stigness

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Slave2anMG 11/04/2013 at 11:10

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A few flakeyness issues with soot traps in this country causing head overheat on diesels and issues with 3.5l diesels ovalling their cylinders might mean the W-124/W-123 diesel-off sub competition would go to the OM617 five. Arguably a tougher body by a whisker on the W-124, though, and taxi service record probably gives it the win overall.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:12

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NSU Ro80, if you want to describe project car hell.

Otherwise W123

TheJWT > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:17

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All other answers are invalid

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:19

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Panzer

EL_ULY > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:20

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EL_VOCHO !!!!!

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:20

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The Chrysler Crossfire.

J/K, I rather like this one I found in a craigslist ad the other day. I like it because I am currently on the hunt for a convertible and it's affordable. To me the best car is the one that fits my needs and one that I can afford, haha. I should add I know very little about Mercedes, but remembered this ad, so I thought I'd contribute it. So.... NPOCP?

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/4085364221…

SpeedSix > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:23

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The Mercedes-Benz 600 - most expensive, most powerful, most exclusive Mercedes-Benz of its time. Also the most expensive Mercedes-Benz to maintain.

Nothing else screams DICTATOR as loudly or unabashedly.

SpeedSix > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:27

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BMW 507

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Hoccy > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:28

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Because rally

Aaron James > SpeedSix 11/04/2013 at 11:32

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RM Auctions has one coming up, what a sweet car. http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?l…

1337HPMustang > Slave2anMG 11/04/2013 at 11:34

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If your going to suggest a Benz, why would you suggest an e-classs? It's like the accord of Europe. What he needs to do his project on is the cosworth powered, homologated (slow) race car, huge winged, 190E evo

Mikeado > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:42

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The 'greatest' is probably the Beetle or the Golf - the former for being a People's Car, the latter for being a high-quality People's Car that's actually nice. The most awesome is probably the Bugatti Veyron (yeah yeah yeah, ugly no manual blah blah, but it was a rock-solid 400km/h record-breaking luxury ultimo-supercar that they made because they could ). The coolest, I'd say is the Porsche Carrera GT.

The one I'd have under One Car Garage rules would be a Porsche 911, not sure which but likely a 993 of some description. Or a current Audi RS6. But probably the Porsche.

Mosqvich > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:48

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Hmmm, I want to say E46, but it's probably not the best car made, just that it's really a nice car.

Your boy, BJR > area man 11/04/2013 at 11:57

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"All of zem becaus zee german car is zee peak of all engineering, and none of you with your lowly ozer cars are worthy too drive zee german automobile."

Your boy, BJR > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 11:58

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This particular 2002.

gometz > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 12:08

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Gullwing.

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Gimmi-Sagan-Om-Draken > Slave2anMG 11/04/2013 at 12:13

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I'd much rather have my diesel W123, its not like those engines are unreliable! Mercs became pretty undesirable for me in the looks department once the W124 came around.

Ilike_cougars > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 12:13

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Alright here goes,

Best All rounder : E46 M3

Best Race car : Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR(although from the 90s)

Best looking car: Mercedes Benz SLR Stirling Moss edition

Best Concept car: Porsche 918

Best Car with the most stubborn ideology: Porsche 911

Best car that get people to say wtf is that : VW Thing

Best Worst looking car: Mansory Porsche Panamera

Gimmi-Sagan-Om-Draken > Victorious Secret 11/04/2013 at 12:14

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Lookout Poland!

Gimmi-Sagan-Om-Draken > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 11/04/2013 at 12:16

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Yeah a diesel W123 with no EGR and a 930 911 could be happiness for me if I have to pick a sedan and a sport.

Gimmi-Sagan-Om-Draken > SpeedSix 11/04/2013 at 12:17

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Oh sir, you need a fuel injection pump, that will be $20k not including labor.

Leadbull > Gimmi-Sagan-Om-Draken 11/04/2013 at 12:28

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Slave2anMG > Gimmi-Sagan-Om-Draken 11/04/2013 at 12:42

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This was my W123...a 240D. I loved that car with an unhealthy passion, and actually traded on a 2.5 turbodiesel W124. Before answering the OP's question I thought a good bit about W123 vs W124...and went with the W124 due to the body structure. The W124 was freakish in that respect...I'd never been in something so darn rigid. Not that the W123 was flimsy but the W124 was just plain stout.

Slave2anMG > 1337HPMustang 11/04/2013 at 12:44

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Depends on how you define "best"...my definition was built around the positives I listed.

Gimmi-Sagan-Om-Draken > Slave2anMG 11/04/2013 at 12:45

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This is my 83' 300D, I got it in CA when I was there. Can't beat a CA car. I have 108k miles on it now, it had 96k when I bought it. I wanted an 83 because its the last year with no computer, I deleted my EGR as well.

SpeedSix > Gimmi-Sagan-Om-Draken 11/04/2013 at 13:02

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The window switches are $11,000 each, I believe.

1337HPMustang > Slave2anMG 11/04/2013 at 13:04

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well there's a best for a filthy casual, a-to-b-commuter and best for an autophile like me. Do you honestly think an old e class is a better car than the plethora of porsches, amg, and M cars?

1337HPMustang > Gimmi-Sagan-Om-Draken 11/04/2013 at 13:06

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akshualy polan buys old leopards for thier own armies so yeah

1337HPMustang > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 13:07

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Porsche 993 gt2 because that thing on the back is a wing, a spoiler and intake all rolled into one, ie, the greatest thing in the world to put on a car

Gimmi-Sagan-Om-Draken > SpeedSix 11/04/2013 at 13:08

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I'm sure there are quite a few parts that are specific to that car, so the classic center has to order them. I have had a few old Mercs and I have looked for many used parts before going to the classic center. Most parts are rebuildable, thats the beauty of well built old cars. I think the list price for a Ponton steering wheel is $2200 or something. I found one on Ebay!

1337HPMustang > 1337HPMustang 11/04/2013 at 13:10

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or the 930 slantnose because flachbau is fun to say

Slave2anMG > Gimmi-Sagan-Om-Draken 11/04/2013 at 13:36

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*envies*

55Buick, Oversteer Scientist > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 13:38

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Look at it. That's all I need to say. (1936 Mercedes 540K special roadster)

Jonee > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 14:00

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Definitely Goggomobil. They're awesome and beloved and would make an interesting report.

therotaryisdeadlonglivetherotary > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 16:29

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NSU Prinz TT because that boot is propped open for downforce and cooling (I have no idea if the downforce claim is true, but it sounds good). Who need a fancy grill allowing the motor fresh air when you can drop the motor in the boot and just prop it open? Also, few have heard of it, so Jalop points there.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 22:06

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The Opel-Lotus-Omega

Also known as the Vauxall-Lotus-Carlton, but it was opel's design, and there were fewer opels making it rarer, and better!
Now it doesn't look like much, but this car made a mind bending 377 horsepower and 350 ft-lb of torque in 1990! The M5 wouldn't make that much power for another 10 years or so!
And, unlike the post "gent's agreement" cars, this magnificent rocketship was allowed to do 177mph (285kph) by physics!
not to mention, it's gearing allowed for it to hit 55 mph in 1st gear!
Is this not the best german sports sedan, and the forefather of all things fast in Germany today?

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 11/04/2013 at 22:07

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correction, it had 420 ft-lb of torque

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 11/04/2013 at 22:08

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grrr...
correction #2
more opels were made, so by definition it is an opel!
(620, to 320 I believe)

911e46z06 > Bandit 11/04/2013 at 23:51

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What are the criteria for 'best'?